[Inkscape-user] gradient mesh, multiple nodes, dropper tool

Discussion:

brynn

2016-12-17 14:41:28 UTC

Hi Friends,
Just playing with the new gradient mesh tool, to give feedback from a
newbie (as opposed to professional or artist). Windows 7 Pro 64-bit, Inkscape
0.92pre3.
After selecting multiple mesh nodes, I switch to the Dropper tool, so I
can grab a color from an imported raster image. But as soon as I switch tools,
only the last mesh node that was selected is still highlighted. So I can't
color multiple mesh nodes at once, using Dropper tool. However, if I use just
the palette to change the colors, that works as expected, to color multiple
nodes at once.
Should I make a bug report for this?

Thanks,
brynn

Maren Hachmann

2016-12-17 15:50:13 UTC

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Hi Brynn,

there's a button for this in the mesh tool's toolbar, it looks like the
dropper tool and takes the color from under the selected nodes.

I know this isn't the same as the feature you're requesting, but it's an
option.

See also the description of the tool in the Wiki:
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Mesh_Gradients

Kind Regards,
Maren

Post by brynn
Hi Friends,
Just playing with the new gradient mesh tool, to give feedback from a
newbie (as opposed to professional or artist). Windows 7 Pro 64-bit, Inkscape
0.92pre3.
After selecting multiple mesh nodes, I switch to the Dropper tool, so I
can grab a color from an imported raster image. But as soon as I switch tools,
only the last mesh node that was selected is still highlighted. So I can't
color multiple mesh nodes at once, using Dropper tool. However, if I use just
the palette to change the colors, that works as expected, to color multiple
nodes at once.
Should I make a bug report for this?
Thanks,
brynn
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brynn

2016-12-17 17:37:30 UTC

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Thanks Maren.

But no, it doesn't have the same result at all. I want to select multiple mesh
nodes, and give them all the same color. I can use the palette, and that's what
we'll have to use.

It's just to me, it seems intuitive to be able to select multiple mesh nodes,
and use the Dropper tool to pick a color from a raster image.

Hhm, it seems both the wiki and website are offline at the moment. I'll have to
look it up later. Should I make a post on the Docs list about the sites being
down, or can you investigate from here?

Thanks,
brynn

-----Original Message-----
From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 8:50 AM
To: inkscape-***@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] gradient mesh, multiple nodes, dropper tool

Hi Brynn,

there's a button for this in the mesh tool's toolbar, it looks like the
dropper tool and takes the color from under the selected nodes.

I know this isn't the same as the feature you're requesting, but it's an
option.

See also the description of the tool in the Wiki:
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Mesh_Gradients

Kind Regards,
Maren

Maren Hachmann

2016-12-17 19:46:34 UTC

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Post by brynn
Thanks Maren.
But no, it doesn't have the same result at all. I want to select multiple mesh
nodes, and give them all the same color. I can use the palette, and that's what
we'll have to use.

- Or Fill and Stroke dialog, I think.
Or, silly way: draw a shape of the color you want below the nodes, then
use the dropper icon, after selecting the nodes (or not, if you have the
color you want below every node). Could be handy if you want to assign a
couple of colors at once to a couple of nodes at once.

As for the feature request, you should probably rather ask on the devel
mailing list, if it's possible to make the dropper tool work that way.

Post by brynn
It's just to me, it seems intuitive to be able to select multiple mesh nodes,
and use the Dropper tool to pick a color from a raster image.

- I think here I don't understand, maybe it's my English. Isn't that
what the button does? Sorry...

Post by brynn
Hhm, it seems both the wiki and website are offline at the moment. I'll have to
look it up later. Should I make a post on the Docs list about the sites being
down, or can you investigate from here?

- I got a couple of emails recently about something happening with the
server infrastructure on OSUOSL, so I wasn't surprised that the site was
offline. If it's still offline in a couple of hours, Martin may need to
investigate. I can't do anything about this.

Regards,
Maren

Post by brynn
Thanks,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] gradient mesh, multiple nodes, dropper tool
Hi Brynn,
there's a button for this in the mesh tool's toolbar, it looks like the
dropper tool and takes the color from under the selected nodes.
I know this isn't the same as the feature you're requesting, but it's an
option.
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Mesh_Gradients
Kind Regards,
Maren

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Maren Hachmann

2016-12-17 19:58:59 UTC

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Post by Maren Hachmann
- I got a couple of emails recently about something happening with the
server infrastructure on OSUOSL, so I wasn't surprised that the site was
offline. If it's still offline in a couple of hours, Martin may need to
investigate. I can't do anything about this.

- It's definitely a problem in the datacenter. Site is supposed to be
back online, but might go offline again until the problem is fixed
completely.

Regards,
Maren

brynn

2016-12-17 22:00:01 UTC

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Thanks for the info, Maren. I re-titled and sent to the list, in case other are
looking for it. I'm about to log off for for awhile.

-----Original Message-----
From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:58 PM
To: inkscape-***@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] gradient mesh, multiple nodes, dropper tool

- It's definitely a problem in the datacenter. Site is supposed to be
back online, but might go offline again until the problem is fixed
completely.

Regards,
Maren

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brynn

2016-12-17 21:51:45 UTC

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Post by Maren Hachmann

Post by brynn
It's just to me, it seems intuitive to be able to select multiple mesh nodes,
and use the Dropper tool to pick a color from a raster image.

- I think here I don't understand, maybe it's my English. Isn't that

what the button does? Sorry...

That button applies the color of whatever pixel is directly underneath the mesh
node (or stop? for radial and linear gradients, the tiny diamond shapes are
called stops, but I guess I'm not sure what to call them). I can see where it
could be a helpful feature. But it's not what I need, in this case.

With the mesh, with the image I'm working on, there are areas where several
stops need to be all the same color, and other areas where each one is
different. I was just looking for a way to to set the same ones all at once.

For example, you can select multiple objects, and fill them all at once with the
Dropper tool. Or if you have a complex radial or linear gradient, you can
select multiple stops..... Ooohh....well, I just assumed it was possible to do
this with regular gradients, but no, it doesn't work there either.

I guess it makes sense though. Because with those kinds of gradients, one
normally doesn't need several stops the same color. But things are different
with the mesh. Maybe this would be more of a feature request?

Anyway, thanks for your comments :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:46 PM
To: inkscape-***@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] gradient mesh, multiple nodes, dropper tool

Post by Maren Hachmann
Thanks Maren.
But no, it doesn't have the same result at all. I want to select multiple mesh
nodes, and give them all the same color. I can use the palette, and that's what
we'll have to use.

Post by Maren Hachmann
It's just to me, it seems intuitive to be able to select multiple mesh nodes,
and use the Dropper tool to pick a color from a raster image.

- I think here I don't understand, maybe it's my English. Isn't that
what the button does? Sorry...

Post by Maren Hachmann
Hhm, it seems both the wiki and website are offline at the moment. I'll have to
look it up later. Should I make a post on the Docs list about the sites being
down, or can you investigate from here?

Post by Maren Hachmann
Thanks,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] gradient mesh, multiple nodes, dropper tool
Hi Brynn,
there's a button for this in the mesh tool's toolbar, it looks like the
dropper tool and takes the color from under the selected nodes.
I know this isn't the same as the feature you're requesting, but it's an
option.
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Mesh_Gradients
Kind Regards,
Maren

C R

2016-12-17 22:12:38 UTC

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Hi. I discovered two work-arounds:

1.use the dropper to select a colour of the first node (since it still
works on one node, then copy that node (ctrl+c) then select all other
nodes you want to colour and ctrl+v. - This also works copying/pasting
colour from another shape.
2. Switch to the eyedropper tool *first*, then select nodes you want
to colour. Now you can colour them all with the eyedropper in just the
way you want.

These of course are just work-arounds, and the feature suggested is an
obvious good one. It will take some implementation though because I
don't think it's currently possible to save a node group selection
after switching tools. - Please do make a bug report for it.

Thanks!
-C

Post by Maren Hachmann

Post by brynn
It's just to me, it seems intuitive to be able to select multiple mesh nodes,
and use the Dropper tool to pick a color from a raster image.

- I think here I don't understand, maybe it's my English. Isn't that

what the button does? Sorry...
That button applies the color of whatever pixel is directly underneath the mesh
node (or stop? for radial and linear gradients, the tiny diamond shapes are
called stops, but I guess I'm not sure what to call them). I can see where it
could be a helpful feature. But it's not what I need, in this case.
With the mesh, with the image I'm working on, there are areas where several
stops need to be all the same color, and other areas where each one is
different. I was just looking for a way to to set the same ones all at once.
For example, you can select multiple objects, and fill them all at once with the
Dropper tool. Or if you have a complex radial or linear gradient, you can
select multiple stops..... Ooohh....well, I just assumed it was possible to do
this with regular gradients, but no, it doesn't work there either.
I guess it makes sense though. Because with those kinds of gradients, one
normally doesn't need several stops the same color. But things are different
with the mesh. Maybe this would be more of a feature request?
Anyway, thanks for your comments :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] gradient mesh, multiple nodes, dropper tool

- Or Fill and Stroke dialog, I think.
Or, silly way: draw a shape of the color you want below the nodes, then
use the dropper icon, after selecting the nodes (or not, if you have the
color you want below every node). Could be handy if you want to assign a
couple of colors at once to a couple of nodes at once.
As for the feature request, you should probably rather ask on the devel
mailing list, if it's possible to make the dropper tool work that way.

Post by Maren Hachmann
It's just to me, it seems intuitive to be able to select multiple mesh nodes,
and use the Dropper tool to pick a color from a raster image.

- I think here I don't understand, maybe it's my English. Isn't that
what the button does? Sorry...

brynn

2016-12-19 11:57:28 UTC

Permalink

https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1651107

-----Original Message-----
From: brynn
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 4:30 AM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] gradient mesh, multiple nodes, dropper tool

Thanks C R. Yes, I was just thinking to make it a feature request.

I do understand how to copy/paste the hexcode, and that's probably the best
solution. But I don't understand what you mean with #2. That's exactly what I
want to do, but it doesn't work. So I'm clearly not understanding what you
mean.

Oh, do you mean select them one at a time with the dropper tool (holding Shift)?
I didn't try that yet. Let's see....

Oh yes, that does work! But still, the one at a time selection is what's time
consuming. You can drag out a selection box with the mesh tool, and select
several nodes/stops very quickly. I think I'll just make it a practice to copy
the hexcode first, before I do the selection. At least until there's another
way.

Post by C R
It will take some implementation though because I

don't think it's currently possible to save a node group selection
after switching tools.

Of course I don't understand anything about the coding. But Inkscape remembers
multiple object selections, when switching tools. I guess it must be a
different story for gradient stops/nodes.

Thanks again,
brynn

-----Original Message-----
From: C R
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 3:12 PM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] gradient mesh, multiple nodes, dropper tool

Hi. I discovered two work-arounds:

1.use the dropper to select a colour of the first node (since it still
works on one node, then copy that node (ctrl+c) then select all other
nodes you want to colour and ctrl+v. - This also works copying/pasting
colour from another shape.
2. Switch to the eyedropper tool *first*, then select nodes you want
to colour. Now you can colour them all with the eyedropper in just the
way you want.

These of course are just work-arounds, and the feature suggested is an
obvious good one. It will take some implementation though because I
don't think it's currently possible to save a node group selection
after switching tools. - Please do make a bug report for it.

Thanks!
-C

Post by C R

Post by Maren Hachmann

Post by brynn
It's just to me, it seems intuitive to be able to select multiple mesh
nodes,
and use the Dropper tool to pick a color from a raster image.

- I think here I don't understand, maybe it's my English. Isn't that

what the button does? Sorry...
That button applies the color of whatever pixel is directly underneath the
mesh
node (or stop? for radial and linear gradients, the tiny diamond shapes are
called stops, but I guess I'm not sure what to call them). I can see where it
could be a helpful feature. But it's not what I need, in this case.
With the mesh, with the image I'm working on, there are areas where several
stops need to be all the same color, and other areas where each one is
different. I was just looking for a way to to set the same ones all at once.
For example, you can select multiple objects, and fill them all at once with
the
Dropper tool. Or if you have a complex radial or linear gradient, you can
select multiple stops..... Ooohh....well, I just assumed it was possible to
do
this with regular gradients, but no, it doesn't work there either.
I guess it makes sense though. Because with those kinds of gradients, one
normally doesn't need several stops the same color. But things are different
with the mesh. Maybe this would be more of a feature request?
Anyway, thanks for your comments :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] gradient mesh, multiple nodes, dropper tool

Post by Maren Hachmann
Thanks Maren.
But no, it doesn't have the same result at all. I want to select multiple
mesh
nodes, and give them all the same color. I can use the palette, and that's
what
we'll have to use.

- Or Fill and Stroke dialog, I think.
Or, silly way: draw a shape of the color you want below the nodes, then
use the dropper icon, after selecting the nodes (or not, if you have the
color you want below every node). Could be handy if you want to assign a
couple of colors at once to a couple of nodes at once.
As for the feature request, you should probably rather ask on the devel
mailing list, if it's possible to make the dropper tool work that way.

Post by Maren Hachmann
It's just to me, it seems intuitive to be able to select multiple mesh nodes,
and use the Dropper tool to pick a color from a raster image.

- I think here I don't understand, maybe it's my English. Isn't that
what the button does? Sorry...

Post by Maren Hachmann
Hhm, it seems both the wiki and website are offline at the moment. I'll have
to
look it up later. Should I make a post on the Docs list about the sites
being
down, or can you investigate from here?

Post by brynn
Hi Friends,
Just playing with the new gradient mesh tool, to give feedback from
a
newbie (as opposed to professional or artist). Windows 7 Pro 64-bit,
Inkscape
0.92pre3.
After selecting multiple mesh nodes, I switch to the Dropper tool,
so
I
can grab a color from an imported raster image. But as soon as I switch
tools,
only the last mesh node that was selected is still highlighted. So I can't
color multiple mesh nodes at once, using Dropper tool. However, if I use
just
the palette to change the colors, that works as expected, to color multiple
nodes at once.
Should I make a bug report for this?
Thanks,
brynn
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