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[Inkscape-user] Inkscape InstallFest, Sydney, late July.
MarkT
2017-06-22 00:44:03 UTC
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I am planning an installFest for late July here in Sydney.
We have a meet-space sponsor in the CBD.
I am thinking of limiting the attendance to a ration of Inkscape Coaches
to Inkscape Installees to 1:8.
Are there any Inkscape Coaches in Sydney who can attend and raise the
attendance limit?

Thanks to everything and everyone Inkscape!

Cya, MarkT

The Meetup is SVG-AU

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Martin Owens
2017-06-22 01:30:17 UTC
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Post by MarkT
I am planning an installFest for late July here in Sydney.
We have a meet-space sponsor in the CBD.
I am thinking of limiting the attendance to a ration of Inkscape Coaches
to Inkscape Installees to 1:8.
Are there any Inkscape Coaches in Sydney who can attend and raise the
attendance limit?
Thanks to everything and everyone Inkscape!
This would be good to get publicised more. Do you have a website or
link that can be shared for the event?

What are you installing at the fest? Just Inskcape or more?

What's the skill level you expect people? What platforms?

Best Regards, Martin Owens
MarkT
2017-06-22 01:36:47 UTC
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Hi Martin,
It's in the planning state.
So no web page yet.
Previous meeting has a page: https://govirtual.com.au/SVG-AU#NextMeeting

Announcement will be via the meetup group, IRC, mailing lists.

Skill level is entry, newbie or above.
Any platform. (Mac, Win, Lin)... any others?

Are you in Sydney?

MarkT
Post by Martin Owens
This would be good to get publicised more. Do you have a website or
link that can be shared for the event?
What are you installing at the fest? Just Inskcape or more?
What's the skill level you expect people? What platforms?
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Martin Owens
2017-06-22 14:39:02 UTC
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Post by MarkT
lists.
Skill level is entry, newbie or above.
Any platform. (Mac, Win, Lin)... any others?
Are you in Sydney?
Unfortunately I'm in Boston, USA at the moment.

I was thinking that the event could be put to the G+ and twitter
outputs, because people in Sydney are going to be rarer I think.

But I'll wait for the webpage and then try and help you spread the
word.

Best Regards, Martin Owens
C R
2017-06-22 16:22:02 UTC
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Pardon my ignorance of this, but is it a compile-fest? Does just
installing Inkscape need a "fest"? :)
Just curious. Wondering if people find it hard enough to install
inkscape as to need any sort of help... or is it teaching new users
how to use Inkscape as well?

-C
Post by Martin Owens
Post by MarkT
lists.
Skill level is entry, newbie or above.
Any platform. (Mac, Win, Lin)... any others?
Are you in Sydney?
Unfortunately I'm in Boston, USA at the moment.
I was thinking that the event could be put to the G+ and twitter
outputs, because people in Sydney are going to be rarer I think.
But I'll wait for the webpage and then try and help you spread the
word.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
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Jean-François Paquin
2017-06-22 16:37:07 UTC
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Hi,

Wouldn't be time for Inkscape (in lighter version) to open directly in a
web browser (HTML5) like some other SVG design tools ?
Ex. :
https://app.designer.io/
http://www.clker.com/inc/svgedit/svg-editor.html
https://boxy-svg.com/main.html#demo

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Post by C R
Pardon my ignorance of this, but is it a compile-fest? Does just
installing Inkscape need a "fest"? :)
Just curious. Wondering if people find it hard enough to install
inkscape as to need any sort of help... or is it teaching new users
how to use Inkscape as well?
-C
Post by Martin Owens
Post by MarkT
lists.
Skill level is entry, newbie or above.
Any platform. (Mac, Win, Lin)... any others?
Are you in Sydney?
Unfortunately I'm in Boston, USA at the moment.
I was thinking that the event could be put to the G+ and twitter
outputs, because people in Sydney are going to be rarer I think.
But I'll wait for the webpage and then try and help you spread the
word.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
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C R
2017-06-22 21:21:58 UTC
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No, it wouldn't. :)
There are quite enough things to fix in desktop Inkscape right now.

-C

On 22 Jun 2017 18:37, "Jean-François Paquin" <
Post by Jean-François Paquin
Hi,
Wouldn't be time for Inkscape (in lighter version) to open directly in a
web browser (HTML5) like some other SVG design tools ?
https://app.designer.io/
http://www.clker.com/inc/svgedit/svg-editor.html
https://boxy-svg.com/main.html#demo
Thanks
*__________*
*Merci d'utiliser mon courriel GGL de préférence.*
*Jean-François Paquin*, ttp
École secondaire des Sources
Post by C R
Pardon my ignorance of this, but is it a compile-fest? Does just
installing Inkscape need a "fest"? :)
Just curious. Wondering if people find it hard enough to install
inkscape as to need any sort of help... or is it teaching new users
how to use Inkscape as well?
-C
Post by Martin Owens
Post by MarkT
lists.
Skill level is entry, newbie or above.
Any platform. (Mac, Win, Lin)... any others?
Are you in Sydney?
Unfortunately I'm in Boston, USA at the moment.
I was thinking that the event could be put to the G+ and twitter
outputs, because people in Sydney are going to be rarer I think.
But I'll wait for the webpage and then try and help you spread the
word.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
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brynn
2017-06-22 18:17:19 UTC
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I'm curious what is an "installfest"?

Thanks,
brynn

-----Original Message-----
From: C R
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape InstallFest, Sydney, late July.

Pardon my ignorance of this, but is it a compile-fest? Does just
installing Inkscape need a "fest"? :)
Just curious. Wondering if people find it hard enough to install
inkscape as to need any sort of help... or is it teaching new users
how to use Inkscape as well?

-C
Post by Martin Owens
Post by MarkT
lists.
Skill level is entry, newbie or above.
Any platform. (Mac, Win, Lin)... any others?
Are you in Sydney?
Unfortunately I'm in Boston, USA at the moment.
I was thinking that the event could be put to the G+ and twitter
outputs, because people in Sydney are going to be rarer I think.
But I'll wait for the webpage and then try and help you spread the
word.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
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MarkT
2017-06-23 01:17:21 UTC
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Hi,
The SVG meetup group has around one hundred members.
SVG has had a slow burn-in to the web developers palette.
It is often used for icons and authoring logo's.
More significant graphics have been in the domain of Illustrator.
From what I can gather many of the group's members are
development-technically oriented, plenty busy.
SVG is a occasionally encountered by them.
Though as it's availability and use rises, a path of learning is useful.
It's easy to assume they will have Inkscape installed, being so useful
and easy to install.
Though SVG is a big learn.
So to festivalize the install hopefully humanizes the experience.
As the install is so easy I expect there to be time enough to do some
ice-breaker sessions on functions of Inkscape.
The aim is to significantly raise the percentage of installs and use in
the group.

MarkT
Post by brynn
I'm curious what is an "installfest"?
Thanks,
brynn
-----Original Message----- From: C R
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:22 AM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape InstallFest, Sydney, late July.
Pardon my ignorance of this, but is it a compile-fest? Does just
installing Inkscape need a "fest"? :)
Just curious. Wondering if people find it hard enough to install
inkscape as to need any sort of help... or is it teaching new users
how to use Inkscape as well?
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brynn
2017-06-23 01:57:09 UTC
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Ok, thanks :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: MarkT
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 7:17 PM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape InstallFest, Sydney, late July.

Hi,
The SVG meetup group has around one hundred members.
SVG has had a slow burn-in to the web developers palette.
It is often used for icons and authoring logo's.
More significant graphics have been in the domain of Illustrator.
From what I can gather many of the group's members are
development-technically oriented, plenty busy.
SVG is a occasionally encountered by them.
Though as it's availability and use rises, a path of learning is useful.
It's easy to assume they will have Inkscape installed, being so useful
and easy to install.
Though SVG is a big learn.
So to festivalize the install hopefully humanizes the experience.
As the install is so easy I expect there to be time enough to do some
ice-breaker sessions on functions of Inkscape.
The aim is to significantly raise the percentage of installs and use in
the group.

MarkT
Post by brynn
I'm curious what is an "installfest"?
Thanks,
brynn
-----Original Message----- From: C R
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:22 AM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape InstallFest, Sydney, late July.
Pardon my ignorance of this, but is it a compile-fest? Does just
installing Inkscape need a "fest"? :)
Just curious. Wondering if people find it hard enough to install
inkscape as to need any sort of help... or is it teaching new users
how to use Inkscape as well?
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C R
2017-06-23 07:12:36 UTC
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A few quick thoughts:

Considering your target audience (web devs/designers), you probably
need to do these things to make sure they are happy with their
Inkscape experience:

1. Make sure they know the benefits of SVG
- A presentation showing why vector graphics are better to use for
logos, illustrations, etc. in today's ever-incresingly high-res world
(show the difference on high-res devices with pinch-zoom - most people
can do this on thier phones, just direct them to a web page you have
set up with a raster and vector logo side by side). Show them how svgs
can be scripted for advanced users (some animated demonstration is
probably enough, and a mention that SVG is an XML based file format)
2. Make sure they know the limitations of the current browser
implementations of SVG
- What works, what doesn't, and the workarounds.
3. Make sure they know the benefits of Inkscape vs Illustrator
regarding the above
- If most of your folks are coming from illustrator, any new software
package may be a hard sell due to the different interface, and time to
learn - make sure you have some walk-throughs that show how fast and
easy Inkscape is vs Illustrator.
4. Be ready to answer any questions that your presentation brings up -
get some of the group in in advance to ask questions, and have answers
prepared for the main group.
5. Obviously make sure that you've successfully installed Inkscape on
MacOS and Windows 7, 8 and 10. If you spend most of the time
struggling with install issues, it will convince people that it's not
worth the effort, and they will go back to Illustrator.

If you have questions, feel free to message me. I can probably help
with guidance, and some graphics for your presentations.

Maybe call it SVGFest or something. Looking around Installfests are
usually for things that take a lot of setup. Inkscape is already set
up (except for XQuarts on Mac, can be a little tricky).

My 2p.
-C
Post by brynn
Ok, thanks :-)
-----Original Message----- From: MarkT Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 7:17 PM
To: Inkscape User Community Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape
InstallFest, Sydney, late July.
Hi,
The SVG meetup group has around one hundred members.
SVG has had a slow burn-in to the web developers palette.
It is often used for icons and authoring logo's.
More significant graphics have been in the domain of Illustrator.
From what I can gather many of the group's members are
development-technically oriented, plenty busy.
SVG is a occasionally encountered by them.
Though as it's availability and use rises, a path of learning is useful.
It's easy to assume they will have Inkscape installed, being so useful
and easy to install.
Though SVG is a big learn.
So to festivalize the install hopefully humanizes the experience.
As the install is so easy I expect there to be time enough to do some
ice-breaker sessions on functions of Inkscape.
The aim is to significantly raise the percentage of installs and use in
the group.
MarkT
Post by brynn
I'm curious what is an "installfest"?
Thanks,
brynn
-----Original Message----- From: C R
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:22 AM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape InstallFest, Sydney, late July.
Pardon my ignorance of this, but is it a compile-fest? Does just
installing Inkscape need a "fest"? :)
Just curious. Wondering if people find it hard enough to install
inkscape as to need any sort of help... or is it teaching new users
how to use Inkscape as well?
--
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MarkT
2017-06-24 05:10:34 UTC
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Hi Chris,
Naming it an Inkscape Install-fest may imply difficulty.
Inkscape is astonishingly easy to install.
And let me say here that I've noticed Inkscape's reliability go to rock
solid in the recent years.
Is there a colour called 'impressed'?

So I'll adjust it to SVG Tooling Festival.
So far the graphics savvy mob are not appearing in SVG groups AFAIK.
They gravitate towards those with 'creative' in the description.
Looks like you're in the UK?
This is hazardous to real-time chats?

Cya, MarkT
C R
2017-06-24 07:41:27 UTC
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Hi Mark. I suppose I don't quite understand your SVG group user base. :)
Is it possible to be in web development/design and not be familiar
with software tools to create graphics?
At any rate, the presentation should be good for newbies as well as
artists who are switching.
I suppose you could cater more to newcomers - Everyone should know the
difference between raster and vector graphics, and this is a good way
of spreading that awareness too.

Both groups would benefit from seeing some simple walk-throughs and
probably the beginners guide Elisa, Maren, and others in the Inkscape
docs team are polishing up at the moment.

Real time chat will be difficult for me the next few days mainly
because I'm scrambling about trying to prepare things for the Inkscape
Hackfest which is only days away now.

At any rate, I'd start by posting a checklist of what you would like
to show/teach in your SVGfest.
Installing is a good first presentation, and especially useful for
people on Macs, where there are extra steps.
How many team members do you have to help people at the fest?

Are you thinking of doing any fund-raising activities, or is this just
for information?
Might be a good opportunity to raise a bit of money for the project
with inkscape stickers etc.
If you are interested in this, let me know. I'll see about getting some to you.

Thanks for your hard work to promote SVG and Inkscape!

-C
Post by MarkT
Hi Chris,
Naming it an Inkscape Install-fest may imply difficulty.
Inkscape is astonishingly easy to install.
And let me say here that I've noticed Inkscape's reliability go to rock
solid in the recent years.
Is there a colour called 'impressed'?
So I'll adjust it to SVG Tooling Festival.
So far the graphics savvy mob are not appearing in SVG groups AFAIK.
They gravitate towards those with 'creative' in the description.
Looks like you're in the UK?
This is hazardous to real-time chats?
Cya, MarkT
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