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[Inkscape-user] how to make inkscape precise
Georg P. Israel
2007-08-17 07:14:51 UTC
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Dear all,

how can I make precise drawings in Inkscape?

I have done several drawings in Inkscape, this tool really is great, but
I am not able to make a precise drawing with it! The grid is activated,
but still the resulting lines are not precise on the grid.
This error becomes strongest if I export the drawing to a PDF.
If I then view the drawing with acrobat at different zoom factors, then
I see clearly that all the lines have small shifts against each other.

This is really devastating.
Is there a trick to make Inkscape precise??

Please let me know

Best regards

Georg P. Israel
jiho
2007-08-17 08:15:32 UTC
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Post by Georg P. Israel
Dear all,
how can I make precise drawings in Inkscape?
I have done several drawings in Inkscape, this tool really is
great, but
I am not able to make a precise drawing with it! The grid is
activated,
but still the resulting lines are not precise on the grid.
This error becomes strongest if I export the drawing to a PDF.
If I then view the drawing with acrobat at different zoom factors, then
I see clearly that all the lines have small shifts against each other.
This is really devastating.
Is there a trick to make Inkscape precise??
By default Inkscape uses the "visual" bounding box of objects to snap
them. I.e. a simple line can snap to either of it's borders (and
hence shift a bit from the grid). To make Inkscape precise you can
switch to "geometric" bounding box snapping (Inkscape preferences >
Tools > Selector > Bounding box to use). This way only nodes will
snap and the line will be perfectly on grid.
There is however a caveat with this setting currently: vertical or
horizontal lines do not show any selection mark and can't be moved
with the selector tool (their nodes can be moved with the node tool
and they can be moved with arrow keys however).

To everyone:
- is this setting really at the best location? It seems a little hard
to find there.
- is there someone working on the previously mentioned bug currently?
It seems pretty important as it makes the geometric mode very hard to
use

Cheers,

JiHO
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Georg P. Israel
2007-08-17 08:59:43 UTC
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Dear JiHO,

thank you for your suggestion.
The idea sounds like a real solution.
I really like to have have all my lines snapping with there nodes to the
grid. All the time, will all operations.

Now, the problem is,
I can not find that suggested options!

Here my details:
Inkskape 0.45 (Linux)

File->Inkspape Preferences...
This gives me a dialog window
in this window I select the option:
Tools->Selector
in this window I have options like:
-> Show selection cue
-> When transforming show (Objets | Box outline)
-> Per-object selection cue (None | Mark | Box)
-> default scal origin (Opposite bonding box edge | Farthest opposite
node)

Well, that's it!
There is no option "Bonding box to use".

Please advice.

Best regards

Georg P. Israel
Post by jiho
By default Inkscape uses the "visual" bounding box of objects to snap
them. I.e. a simple line can snap to either of it's borders (and
hence shift a bit from the grid). To make Inkscape precise you can
switch to "geometric" bounding box snapping (Inkscape preferences >
Tools > Selector > Bounding box to use). This way only nodes will
snap and the line will be perfectly on grid.
There is however a caveat with this setting currently: vertical or
horizontal lines do not show any selection mark and can't be moved
with the selector tool (their nodes can be moved with the node tool
and they can be moved with arrow keys however).
- is this setting really at the best location? It seems a little hard
to find there.
- is there someone working on the previously mentioned bug currently?
It seems pretty important as it makes the geometric mode very hard to
use
Cheers,
JiHO
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jiho
2007-08-17 09:56:22 UTC
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Post by Georg P. Israel
thank you for your suggestion.
The idea sounds like a real solution.
I really like to have have all my lines snapping with there nodes to the
grid. All the time, will all operations.
Now, the problem is,
I can not find that suggested options!
Inkskape 0.45 (Linux)
File->Inkspape Preferences...
This gives me a dialog window
Tools->Selector
-> Show selection cue
-> When transforming show (Objets | Box outline)
-> Per-object selection cue (None | Mark | Box)
-> default scal origin (Opposite bonding box edge | Farthest opposite
node)
Well, that's it!
There is no option "Bonding box to use".
Oooops sorry, the option in only available in the development
versions of Inkscape (the more recent versions). You could probably
get one for Linux quit easily though I don't really know how and where.

Anyway, in 0.45, you have the options directly in the document
snapping properties: Document preferences > Snap. There select: Snap
nodes to grid/guides and deselect Snap bounding boxes to grid/guides.
Then select "Always snap" in both. Plus, you may want to activate
some object snapping properties, keeping only nodes options to still
be precise.

I hope this helps.

JiHO
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Georg P. Israel
2007-08-17 10:08:55 UTC
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Dear JiHO,

thank you very much for this information!
I'll test it with my next drawings.

Best regards

Georg
Post by jiho
Post by Georg P. Israel
thank you for your suggestion.
The idea sounds like a real solution.
I really like to have have all my lines snapping with there nodes to the
grid. All the time, will all operations.
Now, the problem is,
I can not find that suggested options!
Inkskape 0.45 (Linux)
File->Inkspape Preferences...
This gives me a dialog window
Tools->Selector
-> Show selection cue
-> When transforming show (Objets | Box outline)
-> Per-object selection cue (None | Mark | Box)
-> default scal origin (Opposite bonding box edge | Farthest opposite
node)
Well, that's it!
There is no option "Bonding box to use".
Oooops sorry, the option in only available in the development
versions of Inkscape (the more recent versions). You could probably
get one for Linux quit easily though I don't really know how and where.
Anyway, in 0.45, you have the options directly in the document
snapping properties: Document preferences > Snap. There select: Snap
nodes to grid/guides and deselect Snap bounding boxes to grid/guides.
Then select "Always snap" in both. Plus, you may want to activate
some object snapping properties, keeping only nodes options to still
be precise.
I hope this helps.
JiHO
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Lucas Franco
2007-08-17 14:59:28 UTC
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Pressing Ctrl key? (Control Key) ?
Post by Georg P. Israel
Dear JiHO,
thank you very much for this information!
I'll test it with my next drawings.
Best regards
Georg
Post by jiho
Post by Georg P. Israel
thank you for your suggestion.
The idea sounds like a real solution.
I really like to have have all my lines snapping with there nodes to the
grid. All the time, will all operations.
Now, the problem is,
I can not find that suggested options!
Inkskape 0.45 (Linux)
File->Inkspape Preferences...
This gives me a dialog window
Tools->Selector
-> Show selection cue
-> When transforming show (Objets | Box outline)
-> Per-object selection cue (None | Mark | Box)
-> default scal origin (Opposite bonding box edge | Farthest opposite
node)
Well, that's it!
There is no option "Bonding box to use".
Oooops sorry, the option in only available in the development
versions of Inkscape (the more recent versions). You could probably
get one for Linux quit easily though I don't really know how and where.
Anyway, in 0.45, you have the options directly in the document
snapping properties: Document preferences > Snap. There select: Snap
nodes to grid/guides and deselect Snap bounding boxes to grid/guides.
Then select "Always snap" in both. Plus, you may want to activate
some object snapping properties, keeping only nodes options to still
be precise.
I hope this helps.
JiHO
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Georg P. Israel
2007-08-17 15:19:10 UTC
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Dear Lucas,

Ctrl does not help.

The off grid issue, especially with clones, is a real problem for me.
Beside this, I am happy with Inkscape.

Best regards

Georg
Post by Lucas Franco
Pressing Ctrl key? (Control Key) ?
Dear JiHO,
thank you very much for this information!
I'll test it with my next drawings.
Best regards
Georg
Post by jiho
Post by Georg P. Israel
thank you for your suggestion.
The idea sounds like a real solution.
I really like to have have all my lines snapping with
there nodes
Post by jiho
Post by Georg P. Israel
to the
grid. All the time, will all operations.
Now, the problem is,
I can not find that suggested options!
Inkskape 0.45 (Linux)
File->Inkspape Preferences...
This gives me a dialog window
Tools->Selector
-> Show selection cue
-> When transforming show (Objets | Box outline)
-> Per-object selection cue (None | Mark | Box)
-> default scal origin (Opposite bonding box edge |
Farthest opposite
Post by jiho
Post by Georg P. Israel
node)
Well, that's it!
There is no option "Bonding box to use".
Oooops sorry, the option in only available in the
development
Post by jiho
versions of Inkscape (the more recent versions). You could
probably
Post by jiho
get one for Linux quit easily though I don't really know how
and where.
Post by jiho
Anyway, in 0.45, you have the options directly in the
document
Post by jiho
snapping properties: Document preferences > Snap. There
select: Snap
Post by jiho
nodes to grid/guides and deselect Snap bounding boxes to
grid/guides.
Post by jiho
Then select "Always snap" in both. Plus, you may want to
activate
Post by jiho
some object snapping properties, keeping only nodes options
to still
Post by jiho
be precise.
I hope this helps.
JiHO
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