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[Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
Christoph Raab
2017-04-17 08:41:47 UTC
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Hi everyone,
is there a way to change the default units (for measurements, stroke
widths. etc) permanently? I want to use px but need to change the setting
with every new document.
Best,
Christoph
Marc Jeanmougin
2017-04-17 09:15:01 UTC
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Hi,

the easiest way is to change the default.svg file

Best,
--
Mc
Post by Christoph Raab
Hi everyone,
is there a way to change the default units (for measurements, stroke
widths. etc) permanently? I want to use px but need to change the
setting with every new document.
Best,
Christoph
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brynn
2017-04-17 18:35:21 UTC
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Here's a tutorial for making a custom default doc, or a custom template.

http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/using-templates-in-inkscape

All best,
brynn

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Hi everyone,
is there a way to change the default units (for measurements, stroke widths.
etc) permanently? I want to use px but need to change the setting with every new
document.
Best,
Christoph





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C R
2017-04-17 18:49:57 UTC
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It might be good to add a "set as default" option in document
properties. It's not easy to find/edit default.svg in inkscape
(especially when root access is required to modify it).

Just a thought.
-C
Post by brynn
Here's a tutorial for making a custom default doc, or a custom template.
http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/using-templates-in-inkscape
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: Christoph Raab
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 2:41 AM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
Hi everyone,
is there a way to change the default units (for measurements, stroke widths.
etc) permanently? I want to use px but need to change the setting with every new
document.
Best,
Christoph
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Robert Christman
2017-04-17 20:00:54 UTC
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Post by C R
It might be good to add a "set as default" option in document
properties. It's not easy to find/edit default.svg in inkscape
(especially when root access is required to modify it).
Just a thought.
-C
Post by brynn
Here's a tutorial for making a custom default doc, or a custom template.
http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/using-templates-in-inkscape
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: Christoph Raab
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 2:41 AM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
Hi everyone,
is there a way to change the default units (for measurements, stroke
widths.
Post by brynn
etc) permanently? I want to use px but need to change the setting with
every new
Post by brynn
document.
Best,
Christoph
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2017-04-17 20:27:51 UTC
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There is a link at the very end of every message of the mailing list:
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user

There, a message " To unsubscribe from Inkscape-user, get a password
reminder, or change your subscription options enter your subscription
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Just enter your email address, and click "unsubscribe or other options".

Then, click "Unsubscribe" under "By clicking on the Unsubscribe button,
a confirmation message will be emailed to you. This message will have a
link that you should click on to complete the removal process (you can
also confirm by email; see the instructions in the confirmation message)."

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anyone know how to unsubscribe from the mailing list?
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It might be good to add a "set as default" option in document
properties. It's not easy to find/edit default.svg in inkscape
(especially when root access is required to modify it).
Just a thought.
-C
Post by brynn
Here's a tutorial for making a custom default doc, or a custom
template.
http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/using-templates-in-inkscape
<http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/using-templates-in-inkscape>
Post by brynn
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: Christoph Raab
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 2:41 AM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
Hi everyone,
is there a way to change the default units (for measurements,
stroke widths.
Post by brynn
etc) permanently? I want to use px but need to change the setting
with every new
Post by brynn
document.
Best,
Christoph
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Just go to this link:

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Post by C R
It might be good to add a "set as default" option in document
properties. It's not easy to find/edit default.svg in inkscape
(especially when root access is required to modify it).
Just a thought.
-C
Post by brynn
Here's a tutorial for making a custom default doc, or a custom template.
http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/using-templates-in-inkscape
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: Christoph Raab
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 2:41 AM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
Hi everyone,
is there a way to change the default units (for measurements, stroke
widths.
Post by brynn
etc) permanently? I want to use px but need to change the setting with
every new
Post by brynn
document.
Best,
Christoph
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brynn
2017-04-17 23:45:48 UTC
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C R, I'm not sure what you mean by needing root access. Typically we suggest
that users put their custom default or other custom template in their user
directory, rather than where the program is installed.

Or is that what you meant by "root access"? As you may recall, I don't always
understand tech terminology.

So that I don't have to remember how each different operating system handles
file paths, I usually refer them to Preferences > System > User Config, to find
the main folder, and then click /templates (or create the folder, if it's not
already there).

All best,
brynn


-----Original Message-----
From: C R
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:49 PM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?

It might be good to add a "set as default" option in document
properties. It's not easy to find/edit default.svg in inkscape
(especially when root access is required to modify it).

Just a thought.
-C
Post by brynn
Here's a tutorial for making a custom default doc, or a custom template.
http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/using-templates-in-inkscape
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: Christoph Raab
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 2:41 AM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
Hi everyone,
is there a way to change the default units (for measurements, stroke widths.
etc) permanently? I want to use px but need to change the setting with every new
document.
Best,
Christoph
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C R
2017-04-18 05:49:43 UTC
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Ah, this illustrates my point I think. The usual advice is "change
default.svg" the user then has to know to either know that it is not
already a file (in my case I did a system search and found the one that is
installed with inkscape (and requires root permission to write), or have
googled the right bit of advice off the internet.

No, none of this is great, or discoverable, but a button at the bottom of
properties (or even the new from template dialog), would save having to
muck around the file system at all.

My 2p.
-C
Post by brynn
C R, I'm not sure what you mean by needing root access. Typically we suggest
that users put their custom default or other custom template in their user
directory, rather than where the program is installed.
Or is that what you meant by "root access"? As you may recall, I don't always
understand tech terminology.
So that I don't have to remember how each different operating system handles
file paths, I usually refer them to Preferences > System > User Config, to find
the main folder, and then click /templates (or create the folder, if it's not
already there).
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: C R
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:49 PM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
It might be good to add a "set as default" option in document
properties. It's not easy to find/edit default.svg in inkscape
(especially when root access is required to modify it).
Just a thought.
-C
Post by brynn
Here's a tutorial for making a custom default doc, or a custom template.
http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/using-templates-in-inkscape
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: Christoph Raab
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 2:41 AM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
Hi everyone,
is there a way to change the default units (for measurements, stroke
widths.
Post by brynn
etc) permanently? I want to use px but need to change the setting with
every
Post by brynn
new
document.
Best,
Christoph
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brynn
2017-04-19 21:50:13 UTC
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Oh, so you mean a way to create the custom template where the user doesn't have
to use Save As? (I thought you meant "root access" is access to where Inkscape
is installed, rather than access to the file system as a whole.)

On one hand, I think it helps some users to understand a little bit more about
how Inkscape works. For example, from time to time we hear a complaint that
closing the only open instance of Inkscape (template or file) closes it
completely. They seem to have some notion of wanting Inkscape to be an editor
which is separate and distinct from any templates or files .

So I think it (accessing the file system to create a new template) might help
some users to realize that whatever they are working on is already either a
template or a file, and not just content they've placed in an editor.

However, I get your point that it could be made easier, and perhaps simpler for
some users. I could see something maybe almost like a little wizard that walks
you through it. Or even just a button which automatically puts it in the
correct directory.

All best,
brynn

-----Original Message-----
From: C R
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 11:49 PM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?


Ah, this illustrates my point I think. The usual advice is "change default.svg"
the user then has to know to either know that it is not already a file (in my
case I did a system search and found the one that is installed with inkscape
(and requires root permission to write), or have googled the right bit of advice
off the internet.

No, none of this is great, or discoverable, but a button at the bottom of
properties (or even the new from template dialog), would save having to muck
around the file system at all.

My 2p.
-C


On 18 Apr 2017 00:47, "brynn" <***@frii.com> wrote:
C R, I'm not sure what you mean by needing root access. Typically we suggest
that users put their custom default or other custom template in their user
directory, rather than where the program is installed.

Or is that what you meant by "root access"? As you may recall, I don't always
understand tech terminology.

So that I don't have to remember how each different operating system handles
file paths, I usually refer them to Preferences > System > User Config, to find
the main folder, and then click /templates (or create the folder, if it's not
already there).

All best,
brynn


-----Original Message-----
From: C R
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:49 PM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?

It might be good to add a "set as default" option in document
properties. It's not easy to find/edit default.svg in inkscape
(especially when root access is required to modify it).

Just a thought.
-C
Post by brynn
Here's a tutorial for making a custom default doc, or a custom template.
http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/using-templates-in-inkscape
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: Christoph Raab
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 2:41 AM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
Hi everyone,
is there a way to change the default units (for measurements, stroke widths.
etc) permanently? I want to use px but need to change the setting with every
new
document.
Best,
Christoph
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C R
2017-04-20 16:24:37 UTC
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Inkscape's lack of a singular multi document interface is not a great
usability convention in my experience. It makes it generally more difficult
to understand because most any other editor does separate the instance from
the file, and it's not possible to do convenient things like drag other
documents into inkscape to open them along side other documents. It leaves
the user shuffling windows around to get what they want.

If that is the reason for not having a "save as default template" button,
then may be we could fix two problems in the long run. :)

See GIMP's tabbed "single window mode" document interface for a really nice
solution to this issue.

-C
Post by brynn
Oh, so you mean a way to create the custom template where the user doesn't have
to use Save As? (I thought you meant "root access" is access to where Inkscape
is installed, rather than access to the file system as a whole.)
On one hand, I think it helps some users to understand a little bit more about
how Inkscape works. For example, from time to time we hear a complaint that
closing the only open instance of Inkscape (template or file) closes it
completely. They seem to have some notion of wanting Inkscape to be an editor
which is separate and distinct from any templates or files .
So I think it (accessing the file system to create a new template) might help
some users to realize that whatever they are working on is already either a
template or a file, and not just content they've placed in an editor.
However, I get your point that it could be made easier, and perhaps simpler for
some users. I could see something maybe almost like a little wizard that walks
you through it. Or even just a button which automatically puts it in the
correct directory.
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: C R
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 11:49 PM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
Ah, this illustrates my point I think. The usual advice is "change default.svg"
the user then has to know to either know that it is not already a file (in my
case I did a system search and found the one that is installed with inkscape
(and requires root permission to write), or have googled the right bit of advice
off the internet.
No, none of this is great, or discoverable, but a button at the bottom of
properties (or even the new from template dialog), would save having to muck
around the file system at all.
My 2p.
-C
C R, I'm not sure what you mean by needing root access. Typically we suggest
that users put their custom default or other custom template in their user
directory, rather than where the program is installed.
Or is that what you meant by "root access"? As you may recall, I don't always
understand tech terminology.
So that I don't have to remember how each different operating system handles
file paths, I usually refer them to Preferences > System > User Config, to find
the main folder, and then click /templates (or create the folder, if it's not
already there).
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: C R
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:49 PM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
It might be good to add a "set as default" option in document
properties. It's not easy to find/edit default.svg in inkscape
(especially when root access is required to modify it).
Just a thought.
-C
Post by brynn
Here's a tutorial for making a custom default doc, or a custom template.
http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/using-templates-in-inkscape
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: Christoph Raab
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 2:41 AM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
Hi everyone,
is there a way to change the default units (for measurements, stroke
widths.
Post by brynn
etc) permanently? I want to use px but need to change the setting with
every
Post by brynn
new
document.
Best,
Christoph
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2017-04-21 01:16:41 UTC
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If that is the reason for not having a "save as default template" button, then
may be we could fix two problems in the long run. :)
Oh, I don't have any reason to think that's the reason. It's just a thought I
had, about a possible benefit for accessing the file system to save a new
template.

Personally it doesn't seem unreasonable to me as a user, to have to access the
file system to do this. We have to access the file system to save new files,
all the time.

But on the other hand, simplifying it a little bit, by having a button
somewhere, doesn't seem unreasonable either.

For the complaint I mentioned, that we have to answer in forums, from time to
time -- well, I don't share the sentiment. I'm perfectly satisfied with how
Inkscape works, and am somewhat mystified why people would complain about it.

Yes, I've seen and used GIMP, so I have an idea how they treat the issue. I
stop short of saying "solved the problem" because it doesn't seem problematic to
me. But I can see benefits for both approaches :-)

brynn

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Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?


Inkscape's lack of a singular multi document interface is not a great usability
convention in my experience. It makes it generally more difficult to understand
because most any other editor does separate the instance from the file, and it's
not possible to do convenient things like drag other documents into inkscape to
open them along side other documents. It leaves the user shuffling windows
around to get what they want.

If that is the reason for not having a "save as default template" button, then
may be we could fix two problems in the long run. :)

See GIMP's tabbed "single window mode" document interface for a really nice
solution to this issue.

-C


On 19 Apr 2017 22:52, "brynn" <***@frii.com> wrote:
Oh, so you mean a way to create the custom template where the user doesn't have
to use Save As? (I thought you meant "root access" is access to where Inkscape
is installed, rather than access to the file system as a whole.)

On one hand, I think it helps some users to understand a little bit more about
how Inkscape works. For example, from time to time we hear a complaint that
closing the only open instance of Inkscape (template or file) closes it
completely. They seem to have some notion of wanting Inkscape to be an editor
which is separate and distinct from any templates or files .

So I think it (accessing the file system to create a new template) might help
some users to realize that whatever they are working on is already either a
template or a file, and not just content they've placed in an editor.

However, I get your point that it could be made easier, and perhaps simpler for
some users. I could see something maybe almost like a little wizard that walks
you through it. Or even just a button which automatically puts it in the
correct directory.

All best,
brynn

-----Original Message-----
From: C R
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 11:49 PM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?


Ah, this illustrates my point I think. The usual advice is "change default.svg"
the user then has to know to either know that it is not already a file (in my
case I did a system search and found the one that is installed with inkscape
(and requires root permission to write), or have googled the right bit of advice
off the internet.

No, none of this is great, or discoverable, but a button at the bottom of
properties (or even the new from template dialog), would save having to muck
around the file system at all.

My 2p.
-C


On 18 Apr 2017 00:47, "brynn" <***@frii.com> wrote:
C R, I'm not sure what you mean by needing root access. Typically we suggest
that users put their custom default or other custom template in their user
directory, rather than where the program is installed.

Or is that what you meant by "root access"? As you may recall, I don't always
understand tech terminology.

So that I don't have to remember how each different operating system handles
file paths, I usually refer them to Preferences > System > User Config, to find
the main folder, and then click /templates (or create the folder, if it's not
already there).

All best,
brynn


-----Original Message-----
From: C R
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:49 PM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?

It might be good to add a "set as default" option in document
properties. It's not easy to find/edit default.svg in inkscape
(especially when root access is required to modify it).

Just a thought.
-C
Here's a tutorial for making a custom default doc, or a custom template.
http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/using-templates-in-inkscape
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: Christoph Raab
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 2:41 AM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
Hi everyone,
is there a way to change the default units (for measurements, stroke widths.
etc) permanently? I want to use px but need to change the setting with every
new
document.
Best,
Christoph
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C R
2017-04-21 06:55:03 UTC
Permalink
Don't get me wrong, I love illegals and use it every day for my
professional graphics work. However it's far from perfect. This is the
reason it's beneficial to re examine our ways of doing things. Can we make
it easier, faster, cleaner, and a more pleasant experience? Can we make the
functionality more discoverable? Can we improve workflow for lots of common
and advanced use cases? If so, then we definitely should consider it. :)

It's one thing to just complain about how it is, and another to consider
how it might work better.

Just how I see it.
-C
Post by C R
If that is the reason for not having a "save as default template"
button, then
Post by C R
may be we could fix two problems in the long run. :)
Oh, I don't have any reason to think that's the reason. It's just a thought I
had, about a possible benefit for accessing the file system to save a new
template.
Personally it doesn't seem unreasonable to me as a user, to have to access the
file system to do this. We have to access the file system to save new files,
all the time.
But on the other hand, simplifying it a little bit, by having a button
somewhere, doesn't seem unreasonable either.
For the complaint I mentioned, that we have to answer in forums, from time to
time -- well, I don't share the sentiment. I'm perfectly satisfied with how
Inkscape works, and am somewhat mystified why people would complain about it.
Yes, I've seen and used GIMP, so I have an idea how they treat the issue.
I
stop short of saying "solved the problem" because it doesn't seem problematic to
me. But I can see benefits for both approaches :-)
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: C R
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 10:24 AM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
Inkscape's lack of a singular multi document interface is not a great usability
convention in my experience. It makes it generally more difficult to understand
because most any other editor does separate the instance from the file, and it's
not possible to do convenient things like drag other documents into inkscape to
open them along side other documents. It leaves the user shuffling windows
around to get what they want.
If that is the reason for not having a "save as default template" button, then
may be we could fix two problems in the long run. :)
See GIMP's tabbed "single window mode" document interface for a really nice
solution to this issue.
-C
Oh, so you mean a way to create the custom template where the user doesn't have
to use Save As? (I thought you meant "root access" is access to where Inkscape
is installed, rather than access to the file system as a whole.)
On one hand, I think it helps some users to understand a little bit more about
how Inkscape works. For example, from time to time we hear a complaint that
closing the only open instance of Inkscape (template or file) closes it
completely. They seem to have some notion of wanting Inkscape to be an editor
which is separate and distinct from any templates or files .
So I think it (accessing the file system to create a new template) might help
some users to realize that whatever they are working on is already either a
template or a file, and not just content they've placed in an editor.
However, I get your point that it could be made easier, and perhaps simpler for
some users. I could see something maybe almost like a little wizard that walks
you through it. Or even just a button which automatically puts it in the
correct directory.
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: C R
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 11:49 PM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
Ah, this illustrates my point I think. The usual advice is "change default.svg"
the user then has to know to either know that it is not already a file (in my
case I did a system search and found the one that is installed with inkscape
(and requires root permission to write), or have googled the right bit of advice
off the internet.
No, none of this is great, or discoverable, but a button at the bottom of
properties (or even the new from template dialog), would save having to muck
around the file system at all.
My 2p.
-C
C R, I'm not sure what you mean by needing root access. Typically we suggest
that users put their custom default or other custom template in their user
directory, rather than where the program is installed.
Or is that what you meant by "root access"? As you may recall, I don't always
understand tech terminology.
So that I don't have to remember how each different operating system handles
file paths, I usually refer them to Preferences > System > User Config, to find
the main folder, and then click /templates (or create the folder, if it's not
already there).
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: C R
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:49 PM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
It might be good to add a "set as default" option in document
properties. It's not easy to find/edit default.svg in inkscape
(especially when root access is required to modify it).
Just a thought.
-C
Post by C R
Here's a tutorial for making a custom default doc, or a custom template.
http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/using-templates-in-inkscape
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: Christoph Raab
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 2:41 AM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
Hi everyone,
is there a way to change the default units (for measurements, stroke
widths.
Post by C R
etc) permanently? I want to use px but need to change the setting with
every
Post by C R
new
document.
Best,
Christoph
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2017-04-21 06:56:56 UTC
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Illegals = autocorrect(Inkscape).
Sad thing is I've added Inkscape to my dictionary. So sad. :)
Post by C R
Don't get me wrong, I love illegals and use it every day for my
professional graphics work. However it's far from perfect. This is the
reason it's beneficial to re examine our ways of doing things. Can we make
it easier, faster, cleaner, and a more pleasant experience? Can we make the
functionality more discoverable? Can we improve workflow for lots of common
and advanced use cases? If so, then we definitely should consider it. :)
It's one thing to just complain about how it is, and another to consider
how it might work better.
Just how I see it.
-C
Post by C R
If that is the reason for not having a "save as default template"
button, then
Post by C R
may be we could fix two problems in the long run. :)
Oh, I don't have any reason to think that's the reason. It's just a thought I
had, about a possible benefit for accessing the file system to save a new
template.
Personally it doesn't seem unreasonable to me as a user, to have to access the
file system to do this. We have to access the file system to save new files,
all the time.
But on the other hand, simplifying it a little bit, by having a button
somewhere, doesn't seem unreasonable either.
For the complaint I mentioned, that we have to answer in forums, from time to
time -- well, I don't share the sentiment. I'm perfectly satisfied with how
Inkscape works, and am somewhat mystified why people would complain about it.
Yes, I've seen and used GIMP, so I have an idea how they treat the issue. I
stop short of saying "solved the problem" because it doesn't seem problematic to
me. But I can see benefits for both approaches :-)
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: C R
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 10:24 AM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
Inkscape's lack of a singular multi document interface is not a great usability
convention in my experience. It makes it generally more difficult to understand
because most any other editor does separate the instance from the file, and it's
not possible to do convenient things like drag other documents into inkscape to
open them along side other documents. It leaves the user shuffling windows
around to get what they want.
If that is the reason for not having a "save as default template" button, then
may be we could fix two problems in the long run. :)
See GIMP's tabbed "single window mode" document interface for a really nice
solution to this issue.
-C
Oh, so you mean a way to create the custom template where the user doesn't have
to use Save As? (I thought you meant "root access" is access to where Inkscape
is installed, rather than access to the file system as a whole.)
On one hand, I think it helps some users to understand a little bit more about
how Inkscape works. For example, from time to time we hear a complaint that
closing the only open instance of Inkscape (template or file) closes it
completely. They seem to have some notion of wanting Inkscape to be an editor
which is separate and distinct from any templates or files .
So I think it (accessing the file system to create a new template) might help
some users to realize that whatever they are working on is already either a
template or a file, and not just content they've placed in an editor.
However, I get your point that it could be made easier, and perhaps simpler for
some users. I could see something maybe almost like a little wizard that walks
you through it. Or even just a button which automatically puts it in the
correct directory.
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: C R
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 11:49 PM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
Ah, this illustrates my point I think. The usual advice is "change default.svg"
the user then has to know to either know that it is not already a file (in my
case I did a system search and found the one that is installed with inkscape
(and requires root permission to write), or have googled the right bit of advice
off the internet.
No, none of this is great, or discoverable, but a button at the bottom of
properties (or even the new from template dialog), would save having to muck
around the file system at all.
My 2p.
-C
C R, I'm not sure what you mean by needing root access. Typically we suggest
that users put their custom default or other custom template in their user
directory, rather than where the program is installed.
Or is that what you meant by "root access"? As you may recall, I don't always
understand tech terminology.
So that I don't have to remember how each different operating system handles
file paths, I usually refer them to Preferences > System > User Config, to find
the main folder, and then click /templates (or create the folder, if it's not
already there).
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: C R
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:49 PM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
It might be good to add a "set as default" option in document
properties. It's not easy to find/edit default.svg in inkscape
(especially when root access is required to modify it).
Just a thought.
-C
Post by C R
Here's a tutorial for making a custom default doc, or a custom template.
http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/using-templates-in-inkscape
All best,
brynn
-----Original Message-----
From: Christoph Raab
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 2:41 AM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: [Inkscape-user] Changing default units to px?
Hi everyone,
is there a way to change the default units (for measurements, stroke
widths.
Post by C R
etc) permanently? I want to use px but need to change the setting with
every
Post by C R
new
document.
Best,
Christoph
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